Recorded live in Thirsk at the Podcast Social Festival, Robin is joined by Laura Kidd (who you might better know as She Makes War) and psychologist and author Charles Fernyhough. Using the book edited and by Charles, Others: Writers on the Power of Words To See Beyond Ourselves as a launching pad they chat about the nature of storytelling, the power of books and the importance of seeing the world through the eyes of 'others'. Support the podcast at patreon.com/bookshambles to get extended editions of each and every episode.